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Llywellyn O'Brien's avatar

What is this argumentation:

"But why do philosophers cling to moral realism? The answer is simple.

Philosophers, much like the common science denier, love their intuitions. Where science conflicts with common sense it is science that looks suspect. So much so that philosophers have historically continuously embarrassed themselves by defending prejudices, myths, and a great many blunders that we now look upon in shame - and make the hostility of many scientists against philosophy hardly unjustified."

If I wrote this as an undergraduate I would have been rinsed. Explaining why those who disagree with you "cling" to their beliefs which you have offered no actual argument against is very poor form. Lumping realists in with past philosophers who have been wrong about stuff is just so cheap it is nuts. A realist could write the exact same non-arguement against you. They'd just have to frame you as clinging to an apparently clearly irrational belief due to other considerations.

Ishmael Hodges's avatar

I’m a bit torn on this one. As a fellow anti-realist I actually share a lot of the sentiments expressed here. I think it comes down to what you were trying to do. If the purpose of this was mainly expressive, then that’s your prerogative. But given a couple of your critiques I feel like it’s presenting argument as well. You say “people don’t like being moralized to”, which I think is true. But they also don’t like being sneered at and condescended to, and this reads very condescending. Once again, not trying to tone police, just saying if this is supposed to be compelling to people, the way it’s presented is possibly at odds with that. I constantly criticize apologists and people like Michael Huemer for being sort of flippantly dismissive and only making arguments that are compelling to people who already agree with them, and unfortunately I feel the same about this. The best this can do is let other anti-realists like me be like “Yeah, get em Walter!”, but likely any realist who reads it will just take it as immediately condescending and leave. It’s mainly just signaling, which I don’t think is “wrong”, just not sure if that’s what you were actually trying to do.

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